Well, what do you know?
Jeffrey Goldberg (A Crazy Conclusion Out of Norway):
From the JTA. One hopes this isn't true (h/t H.G)
German journalist Ulrich Sahm reported on the pro-Israel Israelnetz.com website that many of the youths who survived the massacre said they thought the killer, dressed as a police officer, was simulating Israeli crimes against Palestinians in the occupied territories. They believed that "the cruelty of the Israeli occupation" was being demonstrated to them, Sahm wrote.UPDATE: Martin Kramer alerted me to these photos, apparently from last year. Take a look. Here are some more, of kids playing "flotilla."
Go to the links referred to by Kramer and you find this:
Utoya Island Meeting was an Anti-Israel Rally
Utoya Island Meeting was an anti-Israel rally. Check out the "Boycott Israel" sign. The Norwegian government's number one issue this week was supporting the recognition of Palestine and criticizing Israel for outlawing boycotts on the settlements. Norway supports settlement boycotts. Quote:
Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya got the Labour Party's young hopefuls visit by foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store.
The Palestinians "must have their own state, the occupation must end, the wall must be demolished and it must happen now," said the Foreign Minister to cheers from the audience
Norwegian link to original
So Glenn Beck was not that far off, after all. Which does not surprise me at all. Neither does the response by those youth surprise me and it is not a crazy conclusion; what is crazy is how children are indoctrinated with hatred. In fact I have been predicting this kind of response immediately after the murders.
I had a difference with Martin Kramer when I expressed no particular sorrow given what I know about Norway's antisemitism and its pro-Islamist policies. He is, of course, correct, that no terrorism against civilians and children in particular is justified or defensible. But it is also true that this kind of hatred that blinds that those children are indoctrinated with is how genocides happen. Just look at the Palestinians.
UPDATE: JOSHUAPUNDIT(Norwegian Ambassador : The Oslo Attacks And Palestinian Terrorism Are 'Different'):
I've long been aware that Norway is one of the most anti-Semitic countries in Europe, but this is a rather unique bit of supremely ugly hypocrisy.
In an interview with the Israeli daily Maariv, Norway's ambassador to Israel Svein Sevje patiently explained that he wanted to "outline the similarity and the difference in the two cases." Palestinians, the ambassador told Maariv, "are doing this because of a defined goal that is related to the Israeli occupation. There are elements of revenge against Israel and hatred of Israel. To this you can add the religious element to their actions. In the case of the terror attack in Norway, the murderer had an ideology that says that Norway, particularly the Labor Party, is forgoing Norwegian culture," Sevje said, referring to Anders Breivik. We Norwegians consider the occupation to be the cause of the terror against Israel," he said. "Those who believe this will not change their mind because of the attack in Oslo."
This came after Israel was one of the first countries to reach out to Norway after the attacks and offer its condolences and assistance.
Norway, by the way, actively engages with Hamas, an organization that openly preaches genocide against Jews worldwide, not just in Israel. And according to the Ambassador, Israel 'engaging' with Hamas is a necessity.
FP: So, how sorry should a Jew be for Norwegians? I concur with JOSHUAPUNDIT and it's exactly what I said to Kramer:
Glenn Beck may have been a little over the top, but he wasn't too far off in referring to the Utøya Island gathering as 'kind of like a Hitler Youth meeting."
Am I saying that the Labor Youth deserved to be shot down and murdered? Not at all. And based on his 'manifesto' the killer or killers had very little sympathy for Israel. Quite the reverse, in fact. But given that the victims of the Oslo killings and their government support groups that seek the genocide of Jews, let's just say I'm not overly consumed with sorrow for them.
When you negate someone else's humanity, you open up a door. And you have to live with what comes out of it.